mdntcallr
Apr 23, 08:38 PM
This is a great thing. Now I wonder if this will support tmobile calls over wifi.
And I hope they sell the phone for higher fee upfront, and lower monthly fees.
That would rock
And I hope they sell the phone for higher fee upfront, and lower monthly fees.
That would rock
Andras5soul
Apr 18, 10:16 AM
I'm definitely going to wait for this. So I can get a last-gen ultimate on the cheap!
argopelter
Jun 8, 04:57 PM
If I leave $1,000 in cash on the street in front of my house, should I blame the government for not helping me when that money gets taken?
Well, if you leave it on the street, that's equivalent to discarding it. That's not an analogous situation here. Leaving it on your porch, which is still private property, would be more analogous. Getting your car stolen because you left it in a bad neighborhood would be still more analogous. In the car scenario, where you have a piece of property that's extremely traceable, then of course the police should (and would) help you recover it.
The "misclick to buy an app" scenario is even easier and simpler, and it's much less irresponsible than any of these other hypotheticals. I'd guess that 90% or more of iPhone users have a credit card linked to their iTunes account. You believe that there is an unlimited ceiling on how much money someone should lose as a result of linking a credit card to their account. If there were an app that cost a million dollars, and someone misclicked and bought it, you apparently believe it's right and good that they spend the rest of their life paying it off. I'm glad that Apple disagrees with you.
The notion that people shouldn't link their accounts to iTunes or shouldn't authorize large purchases (incidentally, if they followed your $1000 rule, they'd be out of luck if the app cost $900 rather than $1000, yes?) because Apple should just tell them to f off if they misclick like this...why? What's the benefit? How hard is it to give a refund? If it's really important, have them come to an Apple store and show that they didn't install the app.
Had you or someone else made the case that this was a mistake, just maybe a $20 mistake or even a $50 mistake rather than a $1000 mistake, then I'd say that's reasonable enough. I am not saying that people should take no personal responsibility for these sorts of mistakes. But $1000 is just crazy when these mistakes are as simple as a couple of clicks.
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Well, if you leave it on the street, that's equivalent to discarding it. That's not an analogous situation here. Leaving it on your porch, which is still private property, would be more analogous. Getting your car stolen because you left it in a bad neighborhood would be still more analogous. In the car scenario, where you have a piece of property that's extremely traceable, then of course the police should (and would) help you recover it.
The "misclick to buy an app" scenario is even easier and simpler, and it's much less irresponsible than any of these other hypotheticals. I'd guess that 90% or more of iPhone users have a credit card linked to their iTunes account. You believe that there is an unlimited ceiling on how much money someone should lose as a result of linking a credit card to their account. If there were an app that cost a million dollars, and someone misclicked and bought it, you apparently believe it's right and good that they spend the rest of their life paying it off. I'm glad that Apple disagrees with you.
The notion that people shouldn't link their accounts to iTunes or shouldn't authorize large purchases (incidentally, if they followed your $1000 rule, they'd be out of luck if the app cost $900 rather than $1000, yes?) because Apple should just tell them to f off if they misclick like this...why? What's the benefit? How hard is it to give a refund? If it's really important, have them come to an Apple store and show that they didn't install the app.
Had you or someone else made the case that this was a mistake, just maybe a $20 mistake or even a $50 mistake rather than a $1000 mistake, then I'd say that's reasonable enough. I am not saying that people should take no personal responsibility for these sorts of mistakes. But $1000 is just crazy when these mistakes are as simple as a couple of clicks.
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bimboles
Oct 24, 09:04 AM
Does anyone know if they are available from today in the retail stores?

Stella
Nov 3, 12:42 PM
..who won't let you legally (http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Windows%20Vista_Ultimate_English_9d10381d-6fa8-47c7-83b0-c53f722371fa.pdf) install a "Home" version of Vista in a virtual enviroment, forcing you to pay more for the Ultimate version.
What microsoft don't know, won't hurt them.
I very much doubt whether vista could detect its running in a virtual environment.
What microsoft don't know, won't hurt them.
I very much doubt whether vista could detect its running in a virtual environment.
Foggy
Nov 7, 01:28 PM
Parallels sucks but until now its been the only REAL game in town. Boo hoo I'm not paying for an app that IMHO is half baked to begin with. :rolleyes: At least I'm not outright going in search of a seral number and pirating the thing. Again its a tide me over until VM gets their butt in gear and releases this thing.
Ahh ok - so if I dont like something then I dont have to pay for it? $80 for an app that, by your own admission, you are using all day every day doesnt sound a lot whether you like the app or not.
Ahh ok - so if I dont like something then I dont have to pay for it? $80 for an app that, by your own admission, you are using all day every day doesnt sound a lot whether you like the app or not.
Onigiri
Sep 12, 07:48 PM
Some Adidas stuff and a set of 3 Moleskine Ruled Journals. :cool:
I mentioned this in the last thread, but I just picked up some of these leather covers for my Moleskine's and they're pretty sweet. Made by Inkleaf Leather (http://www.etsy.com/shop/InkleafLeather?ga_search_query=inkleaf+leather&ga_search_type=seller_usernames) on Etsy if anyone cares.
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Renduin/il_fullxfull173450134.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Renduin/il_fullxfull173484793.jpg
I mentioned this in the last thread, but I just picked up some of these leather covers for my Moleskine's and they're pretty sweet. Made by Inkleaf Leather (http://www.etsy.com/shop/InkleafLeather?ga_search_query=inkleaf+leather&ga_search_type=seller_usernames) on Etsy if anyone cares.
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Renduin/il_fullxfull173450134.jpg
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Renduin/il_fullxfull173484793.jpg

chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 05:10 PM
And by "copied Palm" of course you mean "patented themselves back before Feb. 2010."
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/03/apple-granted-patent-for-touch-sensitive-bezel/
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/02/apples-ipad-may-gain-an-intelligent-bezel-in-the-future.html
He's referring to inductive charging, not intelligent bezel, if I am correct.
FTA:
While the art we�ve seen shows some form of inductive or touch charging, our sources can�t confirm whether or not Apple�s working on its own version of cable-free juicing. There�s also a �swipe area� shown in the drawing which appears to be on the bottom and / or top of the device � that could very well be an NFC point, but that�s pure speculation on our part.
Wondering why they don't if the hardware is there and the network supports it already.
Because the hardware is in the CDMA phone on Verizon. The AT&T iphone 4 doesn't have the same chip. If the iphone 5 does, it's still up to apple and at&t to enable it.
Do you still think it's ugly?
I think all iphone mockups are ugly. Only the official iphone renders and pictures on apple's website seem to do it justice. I hated the iphone 4 from giz's pictures even.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/03/apple-granted-patent-for-touch-sensitive-bezel/
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/02/apples-ipad-may-gain-an-intelligent-bezel-in-the-future.html
He's referring to inductive charging, not intelligent bezel, if I am correct.
FTA:
While the art we�ve seen shows some form of inductive or touch charging, our sources can�t confirm whether or not Apple�s working on its own version of cable-free juicing. There�s also a �swipe area� shown in the drawing which appears to be on the bottom and / or top of the device � that could very well be an NFC point, but that�s pure speculation on our part.
Wondering why they don't if the hardware is there and the network supports it already.
Because the hardware is in the CDMA phone on Verizon. The AT&T iphone 4 doesn't have the same chip. If the iphone 5 does, it's still up to apple and at&t to enable it.
Do you still think it's ugly?
I think all iphone mockups are ugly. Only the official iphone renders and pictures on apple's website seem to do it justice. I hated the iphone 4 from giz's pictures even.

chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 03:48 PM
Now we can use votes to kill each other. BTW, you can't kill me, I just killed everyone on this page. Some multiple times. Deal with it.
stevegmu
Jan 30, 05:45 PM
You are just embarrassing yourself with that 'source'.
Queso
Aug 2, 09:22 AM
The design, print, packaging, promo, photographic and fashion industry is overwhelmingly Mac-based.
Can I add film, television production and public relations/advertising to that list?
Can I add film, television production and public relations/advertising to that list?
Squire
Jul 10, 06:43 PM
Part of the problem is the way they market it. There was such an emphasis on templates and graphic-intensive stuff when it was first demoed in MacWorld 2005 that it's hard to think it can be a good word processor.
I wonder if they did that to downplay it as a potential threat to MS Word.
My first thought was how it looked 100x better than Microsoft Publisher.
Just last week, a coworker was showing me some of the stuff he'd done on Word. (He was creating a sort of workbook for a class he's going to be teaching.) He was proud and it did look pretty good. Then I showed him Pages. His jaw literally dropped.
Again, I think this latest rumor shows that Apple will address some of the perceptions (or misperceptions, depending on who you ask) by allowing people to dive into word processing mode and adding better search and research functions. It just might make me a convert.
You and IJ Reilly bring up some very good points. I agree that there are some misconceptions about Pages. Hopefully, nothing that a word processing mode and a renewed marketing strategy can't rectify. I'll definitely be a buyer.
You're not alone...you're the third one in this thread to mention it.
Mark me down as the 4th. :D
-Squire
I wonder if they did that to downplay it as a potential threat to MS Word.
My first thought was how it looked 100x better than Microsoft Publisher.
Just last week, a coworker was showing me some of the stuff he'd done on Word. (He was creating a sort of workbook for a class he's going to be teaching.) He was proud and it did look pretty good. Then I showed him Pages. His jaw literally dropped.
Again, I think this latest rumor shows that Apple will address some of the perceptions (or misperceptions, depending on who you ask) by allowing people to dive into word processing mode and adding better search and research functions. It just might make me a convert.
You and IJ Reilly bring up some very good points. I agree that there are some misconceptions about Pages. Hopefully, nothing that a word processing mode and a renewed marketing strategy can't rectify. I'll definitely be a buyer.
You're not alone...you're the third one in this thread to mention it.
Mark me down as the 4th. :D
-Squire
gregdeeg
Apr 13, 08:23 PM
I am a VZW customer who has been waiting for the iPhone 5 but my Droid original is about to die. I'm getting the white Iphone the minute it comes out with news of the latest IPhone 5 delay and because everyone has black. I can't wait anymore and will just sell the 4 on ebay for $400+ and buy the 5 outright (3GS still go for 300+ on ebay used). Plus I will lock into unlimited data for future LTE :)

phoenix9744
Jul 12, 07:25 AM
Steve Jobs knew about this in January... this says a lot about his vision. I'm confident that he is already well-prepared for this and has something up his sleeve to counter it.
There will NOT be a sudden exodus to Argo from iPod. If it ever happens, it will be gradual and easy to fix.
Sounds a bit like the CEO of Sony when the Xbox was released...lets just hope microsoft doesn't do to this industry leader what it did to Sony
There will NOT be a sudden exodus to Argo from iPod. If it ever happens, it will be gradual and easy to fix.
Sounds a bit like the CEO of Sony when the Xbox was released...lets just hope microsoft doesn't do to this industry leader what it did to Sony
tthere5
Apr 14, 10:05 AM
To those waiting for iPhone 5: Do we know when that'll be? Last rumor was Sept right? I'm not in the market, the sooner it comes the sooner I'll want to replace my iPhone4. It'd be nice for them to stay on schedule every June/July.
MacNut
May 2, 02:31 AM
Why?Islamic rule or something.
lordonuthin
Nov 29, 06:14 PM
nice. both 275s? how do you keep up with the wattage?
I have my fingers crossed! one of them is connected to the power supply for another machine :eek: it seems to be working for now but I will have to get some bigger psu's soon. The one you are getting looks like a good deal.
I have my fingers crossed! one of them is connected to the power supply for another machine :eek: it seems to be working for now but I will have to get some bigger psu's soon. The one you are getting looks like a good deal.
travistaylor
May 3, 07:43 AM
Does anyone know how these iMacs will perform with StarCraft 2? I have no experience with these GPUs.
synystergates7
Mar 17, 11:12 AM
I think so coast got about 15 too. Rent a cop told us loiterers to leave
KnightWRX
Apr 16, 06:23 AM
fail. google didnt make android. and the fact that you used a winking smiley to illustrate your victoryfail makes it all the more sad. :-(
How is that different from how Apple "acquired" iOS and OS X ? Yet no one is going to claim Apple didn't build those 2 OSes.
Again, some of you guys need to put the Google hate to rest. This is not the thread for it and to diminish their efforts on Chrome OS and Android is to do the same to OS X since the histories and origins are similar (acquisitions and open source projects).
And I will not stand by anyone who does that to Apple's efforts with OS X.
How is that different from how Apple "acquired" iOS and OS X ? Yet no one is going to claim Apple didn't build those 2 OSes.
Again, some of you guys need to put the Google hate to rest. This is not the thread for it and to diminish their efforts on Chrome OS and Android is to do the same to OS X since the histories and origins are similar (acquisitions and open source projects).
And I will not stand by anyone who does that to Apple's efforts with OS X.
Mac-Addict
Oct 24, 08:39 AM
What about MACBOOKS?!
could be a few months.. January/Febuary.. Maybe Or earlier who knows.. maybe next week maybe tomorrow.. maybe I put to many maybes in this post..
could be a few months.. January/Febuary.. Maybe Or earlier who knows.. maybe next week maybe tomorrow.. maybe I put to many maybes in this post..
sparkomatic
Mar 11, 04:03 PM
Irvine Spectrum:
Line is going to the Sur la Table store.
They've come by twice already with water and umbrellas for shade!
Line is going to the Sur la Table store.
They've come by twice already with water and umbrellas for shade!
xPismo
Aug 15, 02:58 PM
Progress is good, but I don't see any killer apps which will make me upgrade day 1. This might change, but really 10.4 does everything I need it to do so far.
I guess my pro apps will probably force me to upgrade at some point.
Does anyone else get a kitten ichat image with the third spotlight image? Is that a new feature? (/me missed something.)
[edit] ah I get it now. That image should have some context around it... its a preview image in spotlight... maybe I' slow today. :)
I guess my pro apps will probably force me to upgrade at some point.
Does anyone else get a kitten ichat image with the third spotlight image? Is that a new feature? (/me missed something.)
[edit] ah I get it now. That image should have some context around it... its a preview image in spotlight... maybe I' slow today. :)
Krevnik
Apr 15, 04:27 PM
I like the new iCal :o