Reason077
Apr 14, 04:26 AM
Once you get over the delusion of Macs running iOS apps
You might just have to get over your delusion that this is a delusion ;)
Imagine cleaning fingerprint smudges off a 27" iMac display. I hope Apple doesn't go there, and I don't think they will.
Right, they won't go there. But what if UIKit (aka Cocoa Touch) was ported to OS X, so that it was easier to write a universal app that runs on both iOS devices and Macs?
Obviously developers would still have some work to do to port their apps, much like porting an iPhone app to iPad, but having much the same UI APIs available on both platforms would make everything a lot easier.
One might give such a technology a codename like "iX", and announce it at an upcoming developers conference.
You might just have to get over your delusion that this is a delusion ;)
Imagine cleaning fingerprint smudges off a 27" iMac display. I hope Apple doesn't go there, and I don't think they will.
Right, they won't go there. But what if UIKit (aka Cocoa Touch) was ported to OS X, so that it was easier to write a universal app that runs on both iOS devices and Macs?
Obviously developers would still have some work to do to port their apps, much like porting an iPhone app to iPad, but having much the same UI APIs available on both platforms would make everything a lot easier.
One might give such a technology a codename like "iX", and announce it at an upcoming developers conference.
Macsterguy
Apr 25, 12:39 PM
Do you guys think there will there be another refresh with Lion pre-loaded this summer? Im looking to purchase my first mac but wanted to wait until Lion drops.
You don't have to wait for Lion. It is easy to install os upgrades later... Buy next week!
You don't have to wait for Lion. It is easy to install os upgrades later... Buy next week!
kbmb
Apr 12, 09:51 AM
TheRegister seems to reckon it's not due until 2012:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/12/iphone_delay/
There's been some debate on whether these articles are talking about Apple's fiscal year 2012 which begins in 2011....or the calendar year 2012.
Personally, I tend to think maybe these rumors are right and Apple is shifting the iPhone announcements to the fall moving forward. That would give them more time to focus on software at WWDC each year, with new hardware in the fall, in time for the holiday season.
-Kevin
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/12/iphone_delay/
There's been some debate on whether these articles are talking about Apple's fiscal year 2012 which begins in 2011....or the calendar year 2012.
Personally, I tend to think maybe these rumors are right and Apple is shifting the iPhone announcements to the fall moving forward. That would give them more time to focus on software at WWDC each year, with new hardware in the fall, in time for the holiday season.
-Kevin
PBF
Apr 14, 12:34 AM
Not to be nit-picky, but "death grip" was "Antennagate" -- what's the "etc" part you mean? It's like you wanted to create a list of Apple problems, so you mentioned the one biggee TWO DIFFERNT WAYS and then stuck on "etc" to make is seem like oddles and oddles of problems ... Like we wouldn't notice! Ha! :D didn't fool me!
You must be a teacher at school or something. LOL
I did laugh at your post. :D
You must be a teacher at school or something. LOL
I did laugh at your post. :D
network23
Jul 25, 11:16 AM
What you're describing is far less revolutionary, and wouldn't really constitute a none-touch interface. The current displays all have a durable, transparent cover over them, and they still get scratches and finger prints from handling. I think the reason that this interface idea is so exciting is that it offers the possibility of having a full screen for viewing without needing to worry about the act of touching the screen for controls making the screen dirty so you can't watch.
Snowy,
I do think hayesk is on the right track. While the idea of a touchless experience is neat, try it right now. pick up your iPod and make movements over the surface as if it would be touchless. If you don't have an iPod, pick up something else approximately that size. Assume that the "field" where it senses your fingers is going to be less than a centimeter above the surface.
What happened?
If you were like me, you still occasionally brushed or accidentally touched the surface anyway, especially making circular scrollwheel movements. You didn't? I applaud your superior fine motor skills. Now try that same excersise while driving. Or jogging. Bet it was harder.
Heck, even just holding the thing in your hand or pulling it out of your pocket will get fingerprints on it and be touched. Touching the surface will be unavoidable. But what Apple can do with this technology is give it a thicker, more substantial, more scratch-resistant, possibly more smudge resistant surface on which the user can touch and interact with the UI.
Snowy,
I do think hayesk is on the right track. While the idea of a touchless experience is neat, try it right now. pick up your iPod and make movements over the surface as if it would be touchless. If you don't have an iPod, pick up something else approximately that size. Assume that the "field" where it senses your fingers is going to be less than a centimeter above the surface.
What happened?
If you were like me, you still occasionally brushed or accidentally touched the surface anyway, especially making circular scrollwheel movements. You didn't? I applaud your superior fine motor skills. Now try that same excersise while driving. Or jogging. Bet it was harder.
Heck, even just holding the thing in your hand or pulling it out of your pocket will get fingerprints on it and be touched. Touching the surface will be unavoidable. But what Apple can do with this technology is give it a thicker, more substantial, more scratch-resistant, possibly more smudge resistant surface on which the user can touch and interact with the UI.
mtkagan
Mar 15, 10:39 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_6 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8E200 Safari/6533.18.5)
And I think they said they might get more in today, but I don't remember exactly?
Any eta on that I was the guy in the green oregon sweate. Had to take my friends back home and ill maybe come back. Anyone still in line after you holding out for another shipment
And I think they said they might get more in today, but I don't remember exactly?
Any eta on that I was the guy in the green oregon sweate. Had to take my friends back home and ill maybe come back. Anyone still in line after you holding out for another shipment
Mac-Addict
Oct 24, 08:59 AM
Cheers - I suspected as much.
Looking forward to replacing it next year tho' - by then under �1500 is going to go along way - plus my wife qualifies for a discount because she works for the NHS.
Iain
Are you joking! You can get a discount for working at NHS?! Maybe I should consider a job in medicine!
Looking forward to replacing it next year tho' - by then under �1500 is going to go along way - plus my wife qualifies for a discount because she works for the NHS.
Iain
Are you joking! You can get a discount for working at NHS?! Maybe I should consider a job in medicine!
xPismo
Nov 3, 10:47 AM
<Darth Vader voice> Impressive.... </voice>
Great to see another virtual machine app for osx/intel. I can't wait to get my hands on one and try all this new fun stuff out! I feel so left out.
...i'd install avid in parallels. ... more features quicker.
OMG! Avid in a virtual machine? I doubt, and I know I'm old and cranky, that Avid will ever work convincingly in a VM environment. Bootcamp hopefully one day.
Great to see another virtual machine app for osx/intel. I can't wait to get my hands on one and try all this new fun stuff out! I feel so left out.
...i'd install avid in parallels. ... more features quicker.
OMG! Avid in a virtual machine? I doubt, and I know I'm old and cranky, that Avid will ever work convincingly in a VM environment. Bootcamp hopefully one day.
chanerz
Sep 13, 03:22 AM
nice collections.
Chupa Chupa
Apr 25, 02:19 PM
Btw, do Apple usually give free updates to customers who bought the computer a time period (say 2 months) before new OS release?
Yes. Usually from the time the launch day is announced to a month or two after it ships. In the past there has been a $10-20 media charge but if 10.7 ships via the app store I guess it will be free or some nominal amount like $1 to satisfy any accounting rules.
Yes. Usually from the time the launch day is announced to a month or two after it ships. In the past there has been a $10-20 media charge but if 10.7 ships via the app store I guess it will be free or some nominal amount like $1 to satisfy any accounting rules.
CarlosMotoza
Apr 12, 02:09 PM
I have been under the impression that the iphone would be released sometime at the end of the year, with verzion having had gotten the iphone 4 in febuary, i couldn't see it coming out any time soon
iEvolution
Apr 22, 05:08 PM
Ugh I wish they'd keep the iPod Touch and iPhone different in appearance.
Reventon
Sep 17, 06:04 PM
Tell me about it! I sacrificed 2 hrs of sleep last night for this game, haha.
I know. Many a late night was had playing that game.
I know. Many a late night was had playing that game.
-aggie-
Apr 20, 10:26 PM
I guess we'll take you. Frankly, at this point we'll take anybody. ;)
Let�s make sure to vote him off first though. :)
I think jav is too irritated after the last game to play. I could be wrong.
Let�s make sure to vote him off first though. :)
I think jav is too irritated after the last game to play. I could be wrong.
Corey Grandy
Sep 13, 04:04 PM
http://s.petco.com/Assets/product_images/8/800443052068C.jpg
Me too :)
Great, aren't they?
Me too :)
Great, aren't they?
sunfast
Jul 24, 06:06 PM
At long bl**dy last! If it doesn't cost the earth they can stick me down for one.
GyroFX
May 3, 08:36 AM
Awesome upgrade, glad to see they're hitting up the GPU for once.
But now my iMac is out dated, which obviously means its useless.
Now Apple, please upgrade the Mac Mini Server, with thunderbolt.
oh noes, it's useless. If you're gonna throw away your useless iMac, please ship it to me. I'll pay for shipping. Deal? DEAL!:D
But now my iMac is out dated, which obviously means its useless.
Now Apple, please upgrade the Mac Mini Server, with thunderbolt.
oh noes, it's useless. If you're gonna throw away your useless iMac, please ship it to me. I'll pay for shipping. Deal? DEAL!:D
anonymous5332
Apr 14, 08:58 AM
Panic (http://www.panic.com/) developer Cabel Sasser (http://twitter.com/cabel) noticed a strange bug in the iTunes App Store this evening. As part of the hardware requirements on several new apps, a placeholder name "ix.Mac.MarketingName" has appeared on several apps' iTunes listings.
Let's look at this from the developer's point of view. If it's not an accidental glitch � it must be a placeholder for something not yet released. We [developers] use such placeholders/variables in templates all the time and don't put dots at random places. Usually when we put a dot after something it means that we are talking about particular trait or side of the object. E.g: person.age means 'age*of the person'.
In this case ix.mac.marketing is likely to imply:
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Let's look at this from the developer's point of view. If it's not an accidental glitch � it must be a placeholder for something not yet released. We [developers] use such placeholders/variables in templates all the time and don't put dots at random places. Usually when we put a dot after something it means that we are talking about particular trait or side of the object. E.g: person.age means 'age*of the person'.
In this case ix.mac.marketing is likely to imply:
Lennholm
Apr 22, 07:40 AM
Have you seen the pictures in Nilay Patel's article about the suit (http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/19/apple-sues-samsung-analysis/)? They copied the look of the iPhone, exactly. Hell, they even copied some of the icons -- the Phone icon, the iTunes icon. Why would they make the phone icon a white handset angled up and to the right on a green background if they weren't deliberately trying to make it look like an iPhone?
If you're Apple, you absolutely have to sue over this. Otherwise you're saying, okay, anybody who wants to can just make a clone that looks exactly like the iPhone. Anyone who owns a valuable brand has to defend it.
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2011-04-19applesam7.jpg)
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/avsamics2.jpg)
I hope this post is sarcastic.
The green angled phone icon!? The angled phone has been standard for phones since forever, it was usually the phone itself that was green, the only thing Apple did was making the background green instead. Very generic. Even the standard position for it, the lower left corner, is simply because that's where a phone answer button is normally located.
Chat icon? The only likeness I can see is that it uses a speech bubble, which have been a norm for IM applications since long before Apple introduced iChat. Note that Samsung added a smiley-face.
Nature images and particularly flowers have been a popular motif for photography-related stuff. Camera makers have been using it since the advent of photography.
Gearwheels for settings and configuration? Everyone have been using it since the birth of the GUI
Notes and contacts, both trying to look like their real world counterparts, extremely generic
A music and media related app having a musical note in it's icon, you think Apple came up with that and everyone else just followed? Come on
Look, Windows Media Player stole iTunes "look and feel", and method of starting playback of media content, sue em' Apple!
iTunes
http://www.mediahuman.com/howto/img/itunes-play-button.png
WMP
http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/wmp11-play.png
If you're Apple, you absolutely have to sue over this. Otherwise you're saying, okay, anybody who wants to can just make a clone that looks exactly like the iPhone. Anyone who owns a valuable brand has to defend it.
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2011-04-19applesam7.jpg)
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/avsamics2.jpg)
I hope this post is sarcastic.
The green angled phone icon!? The angled phone has been standard for phones since forever, it was usually the phone itself that was green, the only thing Apple did was making the background green instead. Very generic. Even the standard position for it, the lower left corner, is simply because that's where a phone answer button is normally located.
Chat icon? The only likeness I can see is that it uses a speech bubble, which have been a norm for IM applications since long before Apple introduced iChat. Note that Samsung added a smiley-face.
Nature images and particularly flowers have been a popular motif for photography-related stuff. Camera makers have been using it since the advent of photography.
Gearwheels for settings and configuration? Everyone have been using it since the birth of the GUI
Notes and contacts, both trying to look like their real world counterparts, extremely generic
A music and media related app having a musical note in it's icon, you think Apple came up with that and everyone else just followed? Come on
Look, Windows Media Player stole iTunes "look and feel", and method of starting playback of media content, sue em' Apple!
iTunes
http://www.mediahuman.com/howto/img/itunes-play-button.png
WMP
http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/wmp11-play.png
BlizzardBomb
Oct 24, 07:40 AM
As expected really. Shame about no graphics card update, but it's better than no upgrade at all.
Now next year, we want HD screens Apple ;)
Now next year, we want HD screens Apple ;)
Heilage
May 2, 02:30 AM
He was supposedly thrown overboard at sea.
Why?
Why?
Digital Skunk
May 3, 08:05 AM
Finally, a quad core desktop class machine (in processors only I suppose) with ample I/O and a decent . . . . for Apple . . . . price.
Shocked that Apple would give us TWO TBolt ports on the 27" with quad core across the line.
The $1700 has my cheap side tingling but my professional side is telling me to wait for a Mac Pro update so I can at least consider a machine I can expand myself.
On the plus side, that 21.5" is not a bad machine for the price.
Shocked that Apple would give us TWO TBolt ports on the 27" with quad core across the line.
The $1700 has my cheap side tingling but my professional side is telling me to wait for a Mac Pro update so I can at least consider a machine I can expand myself.
On the plus side, that 21.5" is not a bad machine for the price.
mklos
Dec 3, 09:56 AM
Router, firewall I feel OK.
I hate to tell you this, but they are really no help when it comes to spyware. I don't know what you were referring to there, but with adware/spyware they won't help you one bit. Adware comes mostly through port 80, which is the port the internet comes through. So if you want, you can set your router/firewall to block port 80, but then you don't have any internet.
That being said, someone could figure out how to get around a firewall. As with any software based firewall, there are vulnerabilities in it, even the OS X one. A router (hardware based), well, thats a little different.
But there are things Apple could do to make OS X more secure. Hopefully Leopard will patch a bunch of holes and make it even harder for adware and anything else to get in. Then release patches for Panther/Tiger. They've done this in the past with Tiger security enhancements and then releasing a patch for Panther.
I believe SecurityWorks (or whatever they're called), works with Apple now instead of against them to aid in finding "holes" in the system. This is the way it should be. They should be hiring people/companies to find holes in the OS and to report them exclusively to Apple ONLY so they can be fixed.
We Mac users are way to secure with ourselves and one day its going to bite us in the butt bigtime. A lot of us throw the talk to the hand up when OS X starts getting bashed about its insecurity. This is a bad thing and some of us need to shape up. These very people will be the first to bitch and complain about their Mac getting spyware and/or viruses when it happens. And of course, its all Apple's fault!
I hate to tell you this, but they are really no help when it comes to spyware. I don't know what you were referring to there, but with adware/spyware they won't help you one bit. Adware comes mostly through port 80, which is the port the internet comes through. So if you want, you can set your router/firewall to block port 80, but then you don't have any internet.
That being said, someone could figure out how to get around a firewall. As with any software based firewall, there are vulnerabilities in it, even the OS X one. A router (hardware based), well, thats a little different.
But there are things Apple could do to make OS X more secure. Hopefully Leopard will patch a bunch of holes and make it even harder for adware and anything else to get in. Then release patches for Panther/Tiger. They've done this in the past with Tiger security enhancements and then releasing a patch for Panther.
I believe SecurityWorks (or whatever they're called), works with Apple now instead of against them to aid in finding "holes" in the system. This is the way it should be. They should be hiring people/companies to find holes in the OS and to report them exclusively to Apple ONLY so they can be fixed.
We Mac users are way to secure with ourselves and one day its going to bite us in the butt bigtime. A lot of us throw the talk to the hand up when OS X starts getting bashed about its insecurity. This is a bad thing and some of us need to shape up. These very people will be the first to bitch and complain about their Mac getting spyware and/or viruses when it happens. And of course, its all Apple's fault!
MorphingDragon
Jun 16, 08:47 PM
Am amused, :rolleyes: